topic Re: Kubernetes Installation and HU consumption in Container platforms

Kubernetes Installation and HU consumption

MarcoCritti — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 14:30:43 GMT

Hello
I have some questions which are not 100% clear to me. Therefore I would appreciate any help.

1. In order to reduce HU consumption does it make any difference if we follow the Classic full-stack injection or Cloud-native full-stack injection? ( we assumed with CNFS we could limit monitoring to certain namespaces/pods and would need only HU for the memory used by the namespaces and pods. )

2. If we use application only to achieve the above scenario then would we only need Host Units for the memory used by the pods?

3. And would we still be able to have End-To-End traces from the UI to the database in App-Only mode?

Thanks in advanced 🙂

Cheers
Marco

Re: Kubernetes Installation and HU consumption

dannemca — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 15:02:43 GMT

As far I know, the HU are calculated based on Memory detected, not used.

When you run CNFS or CFS, the HU calculation will be based on your KS Nodes memory.

For App-only, I am not sure, and really interested on this. Let's wait for someone with the right answer 😁

edit: I think I got it here: https://www.dynatrace.com/support/help/manage/monitoring-consumption/application-and-infrastructure-monitoring#application-only-monitoring

For these technologies, host units are calculated based on memory detected at the operating system instance or container level. Calculations take into account the detected memory limit, such as container memory limits. If no memory limits are detected, calculations may use the underlying host memory, which may reflect a higher number of host units.

Re: Kubernetes Installation and HU consumption

MarcoCritti — Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:23:56 GMT

My understanding is:

1. Classic full-stack injection or Cloud-native full-stack injection will be based on your KS Nodes memory as @dannemca mentioned above.

2. Application only would consume the maximum amount of resources per monitored application(per monitored pod or namespace)
3. With application only you still get the "full-stack mode", so services and traces are available as well as UX etc.
Limitations: When deployed in application-only mode, OneAgent monitors the memory, disk, CPU, and networking of processes within the container only. Host metrics aren't monitored. Topology is limited to pods and containers.

https://www.dynatrace.com/support/help/shortlink/dto-deploy-options-k8s#auto

If someone has a different understanding, please correct me 😉

Cheers
Marco

Re: Kubernetes Installation and HU consumption

Mizső — Thu, 06 Apr 2023 19:16:34 GMT

Hi @MarcoCritti,

There is another limitation of App-only. Native DT log monitoring does not work in app-only mode. In case of App-only you have to ingest to the logs via the log ingest API eg. with fluentd or fluentbit...

And @dannemca has found the right asnwer for the app only HU calculation. App-only worth using only if there are memory limits.

Best regards,

Mizső